FB: High demand and high production. BW: One thing that even we talked about today... The return of the Cuban, you know the musica tropical, the bollero rumba and the chacha and some of those things. We played all those things, we played them. We had to learn them, we had to learn Green Eyes and Besame Mucho and the Prisonero Del Mar and different tunes that had to be learned. You had to know so many rumbas, you had to know so many juarachas, cachita would be another one. FB: Cuba was wide open in those days. BW: That's right, that was big. People who went down to Florida to dance at the hotels during the winter which is something that I did in the early 50's... would be dancing and learning those things so you had to know those. FB: There was a whole raft of famous bands. Xavier Cougart, Ricky Ricardo, Price Prado, Tido Puente... BW: Yes, yes, especially Xavier Cougart... Ese Morales. And you had to know those kinds of tunes. If you listened to the radio you heard Havanna, you heard Havanna cupa. They were talking about Colgate, you know Colgate toothpaste and things like that. But that was the way you had to learn. I remember living at the time with a morocca player down in palm beach. He played morocca and moroccas and probably come claves, guitar, little guitar. FB: Tres or Quattro, the little four string jobs? BW: Oh I guess it was, I don't remember, but I can remember and I'm trying to think of his name. I can't think of it, maybe it'll come to me. I remember he was living, I moved out of an apartment which was my roomate was really very sluvenly. I remember one of the guys in the band coming and say, would your mother want to see you living like this? So he sort of embarassed me and I moved in with this morroca player. The morroca player had been in the Navy. He was an older guy and I was only 17 or something. He was maybe in his 40's. He was retired from the Navy and he said to me, do you mind, I'll cook, you wash the dishes, do you mind? I said no, and he cooked. He was making this rice and chicken areth compoyo you know. It was really great because the guy, he was a very sweet guy, very very nice, very nice guy. That was what we had to play, that musica tropical. FB: This is down in your Florida phase? BW: This is in Florida and that is in Palm Beach. I played two winters in Palm Beach and I was young, very young kid. There were sometimes, there would be intermission bands or we would play and then they'd have a latino band playing. Right now you'd call it a salsa band. I remember this woman playing the piano and marvelous players. FB: You probably ran into some latino kids now who were into that montuno stuff? And they'd come in for their lessons. BW: Oh yeah, oh they can, yeah. I mean that's something that's very easy for them. Then we have to just learn tunes, but they don't play as many tunes because they take one tune and they extend it. So one tune could be a long time, it could be five, seven, eight minutes. FB: Oh in the tropical sounds. BW: Yeah sure.