FB: Tell us about your first experiences at Schillinger House. BW: Schillinger House which of course later became Berklee School of Music and then Berklee College, was a building on 284 Newbury Street at the corner of Gloucester. I can remember in highschool taking the street car, the bus and the trolley and the train to come in from Malden to study with Lee Daniels who at that time, at first I think was a, was in business with Larry Berk who started the Schillinger House. I don't know, that didn't last, they either didn't get along or they had differing ideas on how this school should operate. So Lee was just on the faculty there. I used to do a lot of accompanying of singers because Lee would have classes at that time. Teddy King was a singer there. We would play in classes. Freddie Gera and some of these players and then sometimes I would play at night with Freddie Gera at the Totem Pole, the Totem Pole ballroom. Well that was after highscool, I'm sort of blending this time in. While I was in highschool, I was studying with Lee Daniels. Then once I graduated from highschool, which was 1950 in the summer, that fall I went to Schillinger House. I think they gave me a scholarship, I think it was 25 dollars or something like that. I mean it wasn't a big scholarship, but in those days that went pretty far. Of course in that class were Herb Pomroy and Ray Santizy. Ray was already a wonderful piano player, very beautful player as he is now. They became kind of a click, Herb and Ray Santizi and John Neves was playing bass at that time. I started to play, rather than play the jazz jobs, which at that time weren't that lucritive, I went to play society music where the piano player had a lot of leeway. It was sort of a swing style and sometimes a dixieland style of playing.