BW: Now maybe part of the reason was because I played those tunes at parties in highschool. Another reason was that my family liked those songs so I would play them for them. I can remember in a particular house that I lived in, it was in a little culdesac and I would be practicing, of course the windows would be open and you'd hear somebody yell, play that song that you played before. You couldn't practice too many scales or something they'd say, no we don't want to hear the scales, we want to hear some songs. And as a matter of fact, later on John LaPorta who I was lucky enough to play concerts here at Berklee and to record with, said that that was one of the things about me that was a big positive. I knew so many songs that it was very easy for me to play and then to improvise and move out of the mainstream of the songs. At first, even though I was playing jazz, my jazz was maybe dated because I had been listening to James P. Johnson and Art Tatum. Of course that's dated in a different way, what a monster of a player. I remember my brother bringing home recordings of Teddy Wilson. And of course beebop had come in and made it's big... the Woody Herman band and Duke Ellington, the old Ellington, Bassie and Jimmy Lunsford recordings. I can remember those coming in the house and listening to them over and over and over, FB: The harmonies are a little advanced, there was less stride. BW: Yeah well of course with Bassie there was some stride playing. And with Ellington there was. But the solos, the saxophone solos, the trumpet solos and the trombone solos were, well I mean that was the bases of the things that I heard. Then of course Charlie Parker coming in and Dizzy Gilespie, and those, that time in the 50's, late 40's while I was in highschool. I was actually playing in a polka band, but during the day I'd be playing beebop, listening to recordings. We didn't have any, you know we had really old record players so you'd have to get the record player and maybe if I was lucky enough to put it on the piano bench and I'd put it on and listen to that and try to play that. Then I'd take it off and put it on again and try to play with it. And of course it wasn't in the same key, it would be just a little different so it was awful for your ear, but that's what we did. We didn't have the ability to change the key. This was one of the ways in which we learned how to play, which I learned how to play.