FB: You must of had an impact. You probably learned his favorite tunes. BW: Well it's strange, it's jus strange because this music business is so fickle, it's really so fickle. In the players today trying to make a living and I try to teach my students here at Berklee to be able to play some songs. I know the music business has changed, there's no doubt about it, it's changed. But there are still restaurants that have a jazz brunch or they have people playing during dinner time or stuff like that. I tell my students, I say look, if you hit it big with a rock band, and I said remember there are many many rock bands out there. I said if you're lucky enough to make it big, I said you're welcome to pull up in your limo, run up to the fourth floor at the 1140 building, 4N, knock on the door and you go "phhhh" to me. You're welcome to do that. You won't hurt my feelings. If you're making it in the music business, I'm so happy for you. But, who knows, you might not make it so big or it might take you awhile to make it. You want to hang around, you want to be able to eat. Wouldn't it be nice if you could, if things really got bad, you go into a restaurant and say, I'll play a jazz brunch for you for twenty five bucks and dinner, or maybe you'll feed my family. I'll work for nothing. If things got that bad, wouldn't it be nice to be able to have 20 or 40 or 60 tunes that you could play, play a couple of hours and be a playing musician if you don't make it. And if you're running a studio, suppose you want to open up a studio in Iowa or something like that, or wherever. Wouldn't it be nice for you to know the keyboard well enough so that you could not only get paid as an engineer, but also as a player? Maybe you pick up two paychecks, or you don't have to hire somebody to do that. Maybe your price can be lower and you can be more competitive. Nowadays, the music business has changed so much that computers have taken over and you can have a student who can really, actually make a CD that's really quite good, quite modern and playable. FB: Plausible. BW: Yeah, plausible. And yet, not be able to play one tune on the piano in time, in real time. FB: It's all done with smoke and mirrors. BW: Well, it's done with technology. It was technology, I mean I don't know, maybe other instruments, maybe the accordion was technology when they could move a keyboard instrument around and not have to play. Things change. FB: Yeah, player piano rolls and all that stuff, that was a big innovation. 78 to 45 to 33 to CD to iPod, bingo you know. BW: So I become something that you probably won't see anymore, somebody who knows a 1,000, 1,500, 2,000 tunes. FB: You used to be a juke box, now you're an iPod. BW: Yeah that's right, that's good, that's good. Yeah, think about the iPod. People taking their CD collections... I've got a record collection that's all one wall. I would love to be able to put it into an iPod. As a matter of fact I'm thinking of doing that. It'll save space, maybe I could move into a smaller apartment, a smaller house. So it's not a matter of saying to students you should do this, you should do this. What I do is I say, well suppose you're a film scorer and they want you to do things, you're doing a movie that's supposed to represent the 50's or the 40's or the bee-bop era or something like that. It would be nice if you could either play that stuff yourself or maybe you'd know who to hire and know what music know the types of sounds that you want to recreate.