Chapter 3 FB: What are your most memorable gigs with Hamp? I mean all the places that you visited. AMG: Well naturally when I first joined the band in ’57 when we went to Europe. It was a whole different...Well, I did 2 weeks in the States then we went to Europe. The people were so hospitable and they were 2- 3000 people at a concert and that blew my mind. Not having to run around worrying about gettin accommodations, hotel or whether we gonna sleep on the bus or not and everything. All the people everybody all the promoters. That was great. And the great thing is we stayed 18 weeks so we covered all of Europe plus we went to Africa and Algier. FB: It really gives you an appreciation for the global music community when you can travel like that from country to country and see how appreciative people can be and how well you get treated and their real enthusiasm for the music. It's quite a joy. AMG: The thing about it…I hadn't really been out there, but they knew. "You were with Fat Man Robinson weren't you?" Something like that. I didn't have any kind of a resume other than that, but they knew about you. They asked questions. It was amazing just to see how many people showed up. I was…Matter of fact I was really so impressed I was thinking about moving to Europe. (FB: A lot of people did those days.)Yeah, but I didn’t. I thought about it. I had a young daughter and I said, "No I think that’d be asking a little too much. " FB: You’d have to uproot the family to do that, but guys who were solo. Guys who weren't attached a lot of ‘em left the States in the ‘50s and ‘60s and set up themselves with good careers in Europe. AMG: The thing, the thing that was lucky for me Hamp only had 1 tenor player. He only had 1…When I went over there they only had 4 saxophones. So I did a lot of playing. I did a lot of playing. And so, just one tenor player Hamp... You know he's a tenor so he loves tenor players you know. So, that 18 weeks I got a lot of exposure you know whatever it meant you know, because I played a lot in the band. So naturally that was a thrill for me. FB: Sure thing. So we were talking across the street at Starbucks and you told me that when you were back in Boston you were friendly with people like Charlie Mariano and Nat Pierce. And Nat Pierce was instrumental in hooking you up with Woody. AMG: Right, I knew Charlie early because Charlie hung with us all the time when I was student. When you said what musicians I knew, I said Gigi Gryce, Jackie Byard Charlie Mariano. He was you know one of the regulars. And I knew Nat Pierce ... because Nat…well Nat was the kinda guy he knew who played and who didn't... he had a big band (FB: Yes he did.), he had a good big band and we were pretty good friends. FB: So how did it come about that… Had he already gone with Woody himself? AMG: You know I'm very lucky. When you're on the road with bands you're always crossin everybody at every festival you see. FB: Right you catch another band when your set is done. AMG: Yeah when you're in New York everybody hangin out, there used to be a place called…it was a cheesecake place, The Turf. Everybody hung out downtown at The Turf. They called it the Office, because music is so much business action. You know they had places with musicians at the Turf. And they had the place where the big time musicians would hang out with the other guys drinking beer and stuff. You meet people and that's how you…that’s how Nat and I became. And I'd always say to Nat, "When you gonna get me into the band." What happened…And when Hamp took the band to Japan he cut the band down to 8 pieces. And the band… when we got there we were supposed to do a certain amount of work. Six days a week something. Anyway, we were cuttin it short. We worked like crazy. We do like 3 gigs in one day and we would basically go to the theatre then we go to NCO club then we play the Officer's club in one day. And so, I had been with the band a long time. I thought that was a little too much so when I came back, I quit. FB: What you just said there, were you playing for American audiences in Japan? AMG: Both. We were playing for both. Japanese… Well, naturally if Hamp's coming to Japan and we play in the city for the Japanese people if it's the army base there. You know the army's gonna (FB: They'll want to get you too.) That's how the promoters did it. He'd book it that way.